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(CLOSED) Guiding Principles of Recovery

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The ideas and comments below were submitted in response to SAMHSA’s request for feedback on the working definition of recovery and the guiding principles that support recovery (http://blog.samhsa.gov/2011/08/12/recovery-defined-%E2%80%93-give-us-your-feedback/). The forum closed on August 26th and is no longer accepting
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Tell us your views on the 10 guiding principles of recovery? What do you like about the principles, and what changes do you suggest?

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  1. We all have a unique and individual definition of recovery

    Why do we spend so much time, energy, resources and $$money$$ on coming up with one definition of recovery? Last time I checked, everyone has their own definition of what recovery means to them. And all are right and okay. If everyone does what is right for them, even if we appear to be opposites, we're all right and okay.
    This reminds me of the 'discussion' that has lingered for ages about what to call ourselves. Guess what? I will self identify as what I feel is right, and if you self identify as what you feel is right, even…

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    • I like the 10 guiding princples of recovery alot I think SAMHSA going in the right direction

      I think the 10 guiding principles are good one I add is. Recovery is moving toward employment and getting off of disability.

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      • 5 votes
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        • popularity/democratic

          after all these comments have been posted, who will avoid making this a popularity contest and do the hard synthesis work of shifting through all the worthwhile suggestions to compile a united voice.

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          • Forced administration of drugs, electroshock and psychosurgery is torture

            UN Special Rapporteur on Torture acknowledges that forced psychiatric interventions can amount to torture or ill-treatment, and that the torture prevention framework should be invoked to enhance legal remedies for survivors. UN Doc. A/63/175.

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            • Quality programs of 'recovery' require funding, which is in desperately short supply these days.

              Our state, like many, has been following the 'recovery' model to close its hospitals and migrate its MI population to the streets , adult care facilities (nursing homes), and the state prison system, since there's not money enough for what has been defined as appropriate community care. Without funding for quality community care -- and the political will to welcome people who are designated MI into our communities -- this will continue to be the outcome across the country. We've got some huge issues we need to face: like the fact that stigma has actually INCREASED since the medicalization of…

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              • 79 votes
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                • Social and Economic Justice

                  Assuring that everyone is included and has enough, as a matter of natural right, for at least the basic, will do more than anything to promote recovery (and to prevent future bouts of "mental illness")

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                  • meaning and purpose

                    Add the idea of recovery as achieving a sense of meaning and purpose (as per the Georgia Mental Health Consumers' Network)

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                    • relationships and social networks

                      Community integration / inclusion seems to be missing, though it may be implied by "social network"

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                      • Has SAMHSA challenged Undue Influence of Pharmaceutical Industry in Mental Health Care?

                        A key principle for Recovery is mutually respectful dialogue. In October 2010, the following "idea" received top or second place votes in just about all forums. WHAT HAS SAMHSA DONE, AND WHAT IS SAMHSA DOING ON THIS IDEA????

                        Challenge the undue influence of the pharmaceutical industry in mental health care.
                        Create more non-drug alternatives in mental health. A SAMHSA summit of key mental health consumer and psychiatric survivor leaders passed the following position paper, please support it:

                        Bastille Day 2010 Statement – Rockville, MD

                        14 July 2010

                        The Urgent Necessity for More Non-Drug Alternatives in Mental Health Care

                        We are…

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                        • would add relationship to the divine as the individual understands

                          Principles include relationships, but should also have relationship to the divine which is much like that with a person, as the person understands it.

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                          • Principles broadly point to what should be the essential characteristics of a system...these do that

                            Principles broadly point to what should be the essential characteristics of a system...these do that. If providers, consumers and family members all were to subscribe to these principles in carrying out their respective roles and professional functions in collaborating with and working with persons with major psychiatric disorders opportunity for recovery would be greatly enhanced. These principles are not "rocket science," just reasonably important and useful assumptions all should embrace--as simple as that!

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                            • Once again, our most severely ill (bi-polar, schizophrenic) are overlooked.

                              With all due respect, this Recovery "wish list" omits a key factor. Our most severely mentally ill cannot reach a level of recovery without awareness. An ever growing population of psychotic individuals (bi-polar, schizophrenics) require intensive, focused treatment that does not exist today. Lacking insight, they live in denial about their illness and remain untreated until they pose a dangerous threat to themselves or society. Even then, there is no guarantee for treatment. Strict laws intended to protect the mentally ill, prevent family from accessing the much needed care for their loved ones. Forced to involve the judicial system, many…

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                              • 6 votes
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                                • Need affordable accessible treatment.

                                  Many people with mental illness cannot afford or locate effective and appropriate treatment.

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                                  • Employment

                                    Goethe said that if you treat a person as he is, he will stay as he is. But, if you treat him as if he were what he ought to be, he will become what he ought to be and could be. As a professional in the mental health field, and the parent of a child with a mood disorder, I know first hand that hope and expectation for a full and inclusive life are essential for our peers with mental health issues. The expectation that one has something meaningful to contribute is essential and should be a goal to…

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                                    • Nothing About Us Without Us!

                                      We endorse the Western Massachusetts Recovery Learning Community's Guiding Principles for recovery which include:

                                      1. Self-Determination and Choice
                                      2. Mutuality
                                      3. Optimism
                                      4. Respect
                                      5. Genuine Human Relationships

                                      We believe that all people are capable, have insight, and can live self-determined, fulfilling lives.

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                                      • The principle problem in mental health treatment is competency followed by accountability.

                                        See Yahoo.com. Search on Brandywine Hospital Yelp. Select the red star and review my reviews under "Christine H."

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