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(CLOSED) Definition of Recovery

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The ideas and comments below were submitted in response to SAMHSA’s request for feedback on the working definition of recovery and the guiding principles that support recovery (http://blog.samhsa.gov/2011/08/12/recovery-defined-%E2%80%93-give-us-your-feedback/). The forum closed on August 26th and is no longer accepting
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Tell us your views on the working definition of recovery from mental and substance use disorders. What do you like about the definition, and what changes do you suggest?

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  1. 4 votes
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      • The definition of recovery must include concrete system changes needed to make recovery possible.

        What appears to be missing from the proposed definition is a statement that "recovery" (as opposed to the process of recovery) means living like people without a mental illness live, the core elements of which are having your own place to live, a job, and a partner and/or family. The proposed definition should be revised to make clear that people will be able to achieve "recovery" in this sense, which is readily feasible with current technologies promoted by SAMHSA, including scattered site supported housing, supported employment, assertive community treatment (ACT) and peer support. In addition, the proposed definition must include…

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          • Recovery is a journey not a destination, each person has to find their own path in their own way.

            Success can be measured as recovery for some and good management of their chronic illness for others.

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              • 4 votes
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                • work to insure justice when crimes are commited against us

                  work to insure equal treatment by law and
                  goverment and private agencies when
                  we suffer crime and injustice

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                  • Schizophrenia is a brain-based, neurological condition and not a "behavioral" or "mental illness."

                    Recovery is not synonymous with "cure." Recovery means having the capacity to understand one's illness, learning to self-manage symptoms, regaining control, and enjoying a self-fulfilling, meaningful, and rewarding life.

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                    • The principle problems with mental health treatment are lack of competencies and accountabilities.

                      See my views on Brandywine Hospital Behavioral Health Care for care and abuse during the period of July 27th to August 15th of this year. Go to Yahoo.com. Search for Brandywine Hospital Yelp. See reviews under "Christine H."

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                      • Recovery is enhanced by knowledge. We are empowered for our recovery journey by information.

                        When we do not understand our symptoms and their causes or how medicines and other treatments alleviate symptoms, we are at a loss to know how to proceed.

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                        • I don't see any references to the fact that these are diseases of the brain

                          How can we speak of recovery without addressing the various ways brain function can be improved?

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                            • Expanding individual focus to include the family

                              This definition misleadingly focuses only on the individual mental health disordered or addicted person, and thus omits those affected by the illness of another.
                              Because we have the knowledge now, it would be preferable to state directly that mental health and addictive disorders are almost always individually and inter-personally determined and experienced.
                              All people, children and adults, exposed to others with these disorders are at high risk to suffer from the traumas of living with mental illness and active addiction. Thus, they require attention to their own individual recoveries and are entitled to the designation of "identified patient."
                              It is…

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                              • Include Relatedness to Others

                                Dr. Karl Mennninger proposed seven criteria of emotional maturity that nicely parallel a good definition of recovery. They are as follows: 1)
                                The ability to deal constructively with reality.2) The capacity to adapt to change. 3) A relative freedom from symptoms that are produced by tensions and anxiety 4) The capacity to find more satisfaction in giving than receiving 5) The capacity to relate to others in a consistent manner with mutual satisfaction and helpfulness 6) The capacity to direct one's instinctive hostile energy into creative and constructive outlets. and 7) The capacity to love. Three of these seven criteria…

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                                • The term “management” is more realistic than “recovery,” particularly for severe mental illness.

                                  The term “management” is more realistic than “recovery,” particularly for severe mental illness. So often, mental illness is a chronic problem that can be addressed on an ongoing basis, but not necessarily eliminated. (Recovery sounds too much like “cure.”) Also, these principles say nothing about medication, while access to effective medication is crucial to those with serious mental illness. Finally recovery or management sometimes comes only through involuntary treatment.

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                                  • If there is no cure, there is no recovery. Improvement, yes.

                                    If a person, especially a child, has a condition or illness that is not cureable, then there is no recovery. There is management, improvement, and treatment.

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                                      • Recovery is gradual and often not acknowledge by me . A coach, sponser helps me see my progress.

                                        My diagnosis was after I was 50 years old.
                                        Having lived for so long not knowing what
                                        was making me feel uncomfortable in my
                                        own skin had become my "normal". Seeing progress was/is a mystery

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                                        • Definition of Recovery Feed

                                          Recovery principle 1 is only accurate so
                                          long as it excludes persons who suffer from anasognosia, the inability to know
                                          they are ill, hence lacking the ability to
                                          drive their own person in the direction of
                                          recovery. Also, schizoaffective people
                                          may have a succession of cyclical crisis
                                          due to their inability to know they are ill,
                                          and only when they are stable can be
                                          reasoned with. This takes a lot of patience, perseverance and compassion
                                          by all those in contact with the ill person,
                                          to help them to a beginning of a life free
                                          from their devastating, crippling and mind …

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