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(CLOSED) Definition of Recovery

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The ideas and comments below were submitted in response to SAMHSA’s request for feedback on the working definition of recovery and the guiding principles that support recovery (http://blog.samhsa.gov/2011/08/12/recovery-defined-%E2%80%93-give-us-your-feedback/). The forum closed on August 26th and is no longer accepting
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Tell us your views on the working definition of recovery from mental and substance use disorders. What do you like about the definition, and what changes do you suggest?

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  1. Self-determination, empowerment, and hope are vital to recovery because they are the avenues for fin

    Self-determination, empowerment, and hope are vital to recovery
    because they are the avenues for finding our voice to become active
    participants in a society based on equality of access to jobs,
    housing, education,and health care. We are glad SAMHSA emphasizes trauma-informed, culturally-attuned, peer-delivered care for MH and SA.

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    • The definition of recovery must include concrete system changes needed to make recovery possible.

      What appears to be missing from the proposed definition is a statement that "recovery" (as opposed to the process of recovery) means living like people without a mental illness live, the core elements of which are having your own place to live, a job, and a partner and/or family. The proposed definition should be revised to make clear that people will be able to achieve "recovery" in this sense, which is readily feasible with current technologies promoted by SAMHSA, including scattered site supported housing, supported employment, assertive community treatment (ACT) and peer support. In addition, the proposed definition must include…

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      • Recovery must be self-directed

        The medical model of "mental illness" has created a massive increase in psychiatric disability. More treatment with drugs has not meant higher recovery rates, but the opposite. If SAMHSA is truly interested in promoting recovery, it would would be wise to listen to those of us who have recovered from so-called "mental illness" rather than those who speak of "chronicity", funding long-term institutionalization and forcing people into psychiatric "treatment" in their own communities. We must have alternatives. Psychiatry is a failure.

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        • Resilience and Children

          SAMHSA’s proposed recovery definition is a good framework for adults; however, it is too narrow if applied to children, youth and emerging adults. Half of adults with mental illness experienced onset of that illness prior to age 14 . People in recovery are just as likely to be parents as the general population.

          Increasing resiliency skills and promoting protective factors are integral to children and youth becoming adults not debilitated by their experiences with emotional, behavioral (in-cluding substance use) or mental health symptoms or disorders.

          Two additional guiding principles are needed to include the support of people who parent children…

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          • Recovery is living a full, whole life.

            If you are a human being, recovery is probable if you can find a supportive community to surround you. Recovery defined in this way is for everyone.

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            • Fewer days experiencing hallu

              Like most of SAMHSA's efforts, this fails to focus on people with the most serious mental illnesses. For them, recovery is fewer days experiencing hallucinations, delusions, psychosis, and anosognosia. Fewer days homeless, incarcerated or being bounced program to program. Recovery means fewer attempts at violence to self, violence to others, suicidal ideation. SAMHSA should focus on serious mental illness rather than continuing kowtowing to worried-well. Has SAMHSA no heart?

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              • Recovery is Discovery

                Recovery is the discovery of a new way of living and a new way of being. Recovery is not about returning to a "normal" state of health, mind, or strength; rather, having the space to redefine who you are, how you live, and what is meaningful. Recovery is returning to the inner wisdom that is within you.

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                • Resilience for children & families not recovery

                  Specific changes to the adult definition of recovery:
                  • Change “mental and substance use disorders” to “behavioral health disorders”.
                  • Define the health domain as: “Promote wellness and increase resilience for individuals to decrease or eliminate symptoms of behavioral disorders.”
                  • Define the home domain as: “Ensure that permanent housing and supportive services and a living wage is available for individuals with or in recovery from behavioral health disorders. Parents of children and youth who experience behavioral health disorders need to be able to earn a livable wage and have respite services.”
                  • Define the purpose domain as: “Increase gainful…

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                  • While the definition is a good framework for adults, it is too narrow if applied to children, youth

                    While the definition is a good framework for adults, it is too narrow if applied to children, youth and emerging adults. It is important that SAMHSA understand that resiliency applies to children, not recovery, AND that parents are integral to the wellness of children.

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                    • When children get included in adult definitions, children always lose.

                      Children's Issues are so different from adult issues that to include children under an adult definition means that most the children's issues will be lost. i've been fighting this issue since 1977 and the National Plan for Mental Health.

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                        • I agree. Glad to see HOPE as a principle. Add Recovery =Embracing humanity & individual spirituality

                          Including " HOPE" as a guiding principle allowes both providers and service reciepients to VISUALIZE a future of wellnes and pursue of individual goals. Recovery strengthens the individual by reconnecting to basic core humanity values that were compremized/ undermind by the harmful effects of the dual disorder.
                          Roni Zarbiv, LCSW

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                            • The definition must include concrete and specific system changes needed to make recovery possible

                              What appears to be missing from the proposed definition is a statement that "recovery" (as opposed to the process of recovery) means living like people without psychiatric diagnoses live, the core elements of which are having your own place to live, a job, and a partner and/or family. The proposed definition should be revised to make clear that people will be able to achieve "recovery" in this sense, which is readily feasible with current technologies promoted by SAMHSA, including scattered site supported housing, supported employment, and peer support. In addition, the proposed definition must include the explicit expectation that service…

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                              • Excellent, but needs to include advocacy for social justice and reducing economic disparity

                                These are interconnected causes of so much mental and emotional human suffering and recovery cannot happen fully without addressing the terribly unequal socio-economic environment that contributes to individual pain.

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                                • Youth living in homes with parental MH/SA problems are also impacted and need their own recovery

                                  The definition must recognize that parental substance abuse or mental health problems can significantly impact children and others in the family and their need for various of levels recovery support. This is true whether or not they are living with the afflicted parent, and whether or not the parent is in recovery.

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                                  • This working definition avoids talking about actually reducing symptoms of serious mental illnesses.

                                    Very fuzzy definition like this will allow people to escape accountability. Real harm reduction, not just feel-good "process," has to be at the core of the idea of recovery.

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                                      • Time to consider alternatives to the term “recovery”? Consider “Re/Claiming”

                                        Much like the term "survivor" in the cancer field, the concept of recovery in the area of adult mental health has been important for instilling hope and optimism, particularly among consumers and families, and for changing the way many people think about the possibility of improved mental health outcomes over time. However, we feel that the current effort to define "recovery" universally for substance abuse and all mental disorders (from serious, biologically-based illness to more transitory, environmentally-based disorders) is fraught with problems. We feel a better approach moving forward would be to identify a new mental health term (or terms)…

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